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2005-01-27 [livingdeadgurl]: o and u are aware that that wiki does not exist...correc
2005-01-27 [Avoral]: Check again.
2005-01-27 [Avoral]: I COULD put up a fight if you'd like. ^_^ I could go through and flip your head around, or at least make you run screaming. I destroy wikis primarily, though.
2005-01-27 [livingdeadgurl]: sorry i dont scream....and what fun would a fight be if i ran away??........
2005-01-27 [Avoral]: Yeah, there is. If you can interpret CI's mission statement, you'll see the purpose.
2005-01-27 [Avoral]: And forgive the previous typo, dearie.
2005-01-27 [livingdeadgurl]: and where might that be located?
2005-01-27 [livingdeadgurl]: typos are of no consiquence to me i make sevral of them myself
2005-01-28 [fjdka]: im not whiny and i don't want to be different. i just like pain... and to hurt and hide myself from those who judge me...
2005-01-28 [livingdeadgurl]: hi randa.....the person just wanted a fight...nothin to worry bout...i was in the mood for it actully...o well to bad he gave up so eeasily..
2005-01-28 [Avoral]: Ah, much more like it. To lie dormant in wait has its rewards. So, who judges you, then, Randa?
2005-01-28 [Avoral]: And it's at Conformity, Inc., [livingdeadgurl].
2005-01-28 [Avoral]: And it's at Conformity, Inc., [livingdeadgurl].
2005-01-28 [livingdeadgurl]: aha...see typdid wrong deary...dont go bugging randa to much though alright or ill get after you..
2005-01-28 [Avoral]: Hence my apology for the typo. But hey, weren't you wanting to play anyway? I'll go about my business as I was doing, "bugging" who seems to SCREAM "bug me." But just tell me where the line is drawn, and I'll consider taking it into consideration.
2005-01-28 [livingdeadgurl]: i dont know that iv ever found a line to begin with...just a little warning....
2005-01-28 [Lost_soul_of BrandonLee2]: Eh this conversation seems interesting...
2005-01-29 [livingdeadgurl]: it was...however avoral keeps leaving ..
2005-01-29 [Lost_soul_of BrandonLee2]: Intriging.....
2005-01-29 [livingdeadgurl]: yesm...i know..
2005-01-29 [fjdka]: everyone judges me... even my friends. they all thing i do things to myself to get attention. i just hurt bad on the inside... i don't take things too well... like when my b/f broke up with me-had to go get stitches in the emergency for that one
2005-01-29 [livingdeadgurl]: i dont judge u....but n the other hand i dont count so yeah..
2005-01-29 [fjdka]: everyone counts...
2005-01-29 [livingdeadgurl]: not me...
2005-01-29 [fjdka]: EVERYONE does. and if you don't judge by appearence and actually get to know pplz than good for you!!!!! wish more ppl in the world were like that...
2005-01-29 [livingdeadgurl]: i have gotten to know u to sum extent...ur never on verry long though so yeah....but o wellz...i wish more ppl were like that to..
2005-01-29 [Avoral]: What do you think I'm doing, Randa?
2005-01-29 [livingdeadgurl]: randa is out playing pool/..
2005-01-29 [fjdka]: i think u r judging me as just another one who cuts just to get attention/ thinks it's entertaining. GAH...
2005-01-29 [livingdeadgurl]: .....
2005-01-30 [Avoral]: And here's the irony. You're being judgmental.
2005-01-30 [fjdka]: five of my fish are dead... only one remains. theres sum kind of disease that is killing them all. they were my friends... they were there, the first fish i got, bob, is now the only fish left. my parents won't leave me alone... they won't let me be by myself... although i've already cut... deep, pain, so precious... all that blood... sorry this is so long..........
2005-01-30 [Avoral]: *Dries eyes* That touched my heart. But you're still judgmental.
2005-01-30 [livingdeadgurl]: everyone is judgmental its human nature we havebeen programed to be like that from a young age
2005-01-30 [Erinnn]: (>.<) i wouldnt cut over a fish dieing thats all im gonna say on the matter..... i mean... fish rnt supposed to live that long n e way.. but im sorry that you mis them so much i mean if they were your friends and all...
2005-01-30 [livingdeadgurl]: fish our your pets...pets become part of your family....your family dies what do u do? ....exactly...
2005-01-31 [fjdka]: i can't prevent my last fish from dying... poor bob. i'm sorry u feel that way [Erinnn]. *big sigh* ever since i've had my heart ripped out (it's been about a month now i think) my life has been crumbling. every1 is leaving me. first zach, then t.j.- my sister soul mate, one of my friends tried to commit suicide and never even talked to me, and now my fish. when will it be my turn!!!
2005-01-31 [livingdeadgurl]: do u remember what u said to me b4 after i told u i tryed to kill myself randa??? alright well u said nooo u cant die we need u for the army!! right...well same for u it cant be your turn yet cuz yeah your presence is needed here
2005-01-31 [Avoral]: Hey, Randa, you should do it. Don't let them talk you out of it. I say you're spineless, from the sound of you. Want to prove me wrong?
2005-01-31 [livingdeadgurl]: avoral are u just trying to piss me off now hun?
2005-01-31 [Avoral]: That's for me to know and you to surmise. But I've got more important matters. I've never managed to talk a whiny Goth or equivalent to suicide.
2005-01-31 [livingdeadgurl]: it is rather easy to convince sumone tocomit suicide and if thats what ur trying to do here then your going about it the wrong way....
2005-02-01 [muffins??]: muffins giraffe zebra???
2005-02-01 [livingdeadgurl]: zebra where? is he wearing orange tap shoes? cuz that would be super..
2005-02-01 [fjdka]: i would but we can't afford a funeral. and i know that one person would follow me, and pplz love her. and im not a goth, i might be whiny but hell, isn't every1???
2005-02-01 [Avoral]: Not me. Anyway, you could just drown yourself out in the middle of nowhere. They'd never find your body.
2005-02-01 [fjdka]: i think i'll just bleed my pain away for right now. plz don't push me, im really exauhsted.. i've lost a lot of blood tonight.
2005-02-01 [livingdeadgurl]: avoral dear...stop...
2005-02-01 [Avoral]: Look at that. Trying to feign valiance. It's really her that hurts herself though, not me. I just help her little plight by being an external manifestation of everything she wants. In reality, she just craves the attention I'm giving her. She doesn't want me to leave, no matter how much she might say otherwise. She loves the attention.
2005-02-01 [livingdeadgurl]: it doesent matter isint she hurting herself enuf? she realy doesent need u to make it worse......i already cut the shit outa my own arm tonight i know how she is feeling where as ucould never possably...and personaly i think its u who loves the attention and does not want to go away becouse secretly u know u need us...u need this place....u need ppl who are fucked up enuf so ucan hurt them even more so that ucan make yourself feel like your better then the rest of us
2005-02-01 [fjdka]: i stopped taking my happy pills... parents r pissed but they can't stop me
2005-02-01 [livingdeadgurl]: ya i refuse to go on those...
2005-02-01 [Avoral]: Does a child need the attention of his toys? Nah, he just likes to control them, observe them, manipulate them, whatever. Make them fight wars, and make cool little death noises as they kill each other and themselves. That's about what I'm doing with you all. And actually, most people these days cut for the attention. That's why it's usually in conspicuous places, or why they reveal that they're doing so as often as they do. And I don't believe I've noticed more than ONE thing come out of Randa that isn't just screaming histrionics. I'm not making it worse. I'm making it better.
2005-02-01 [livingdeadgurl]: how exactly do u think your making it better?
2005-02-01 [Avoral]: By feeding her the very essence of what she's wanting inside.
2005-02-01 [livingdeadgurl]: if that is truly what she wants (which im still not sure) wouldent that be feeding her and making that monster grow....its like when a child throws a temper tantrum...if u ignore them they will stop on there own...but if u make a big deal out of it and give them the attention then they will keep screaming..
2005-02-01 [Avoral]: Oh, I wasn't talking long-term. But if you'll look at the situation a little further, you'll see what else I'm doing.
2005-02-01 [livingdeadgurl]: i know exactlywhat your doing your surounding youself with others who have problems to make yourself feel better about your life...to make u feel supereor to others...and that i know...i read all of your house...its part of who you are..
2005-02-02 [Avoral]: And what's wrong with my life? No, seriously, I want to hear this one.
2005-02-02 [fjdka]: avoral, have you ever cut urself, burnt urself with ciggeretts or pained urself in any other way??? if not, then y do u critize me??? i don't crave attention, i crave pain. the pain inside me is too great right now to ignore, it's never-ending. i think livingdeadgurl is right about how u mess with otherz just to make urself feel better. it makes people feel better to make others miserable. shit happens... lifes just like a dick, when it gets hard FUCK IT, and that's exactly wat im doing.
2005-02-02 [livingdeadgurl]: u think there is nothing wrong with your life u think ur practicaly perfect like fucking marry popins for fuck sakes...but u need to make others feel bad so that u can continue to feel fabulouse about your life....and thats whats wrong with u..
2005-02-02 [fjdka]: true, very true...
2005-02-02 [Avoral]: Spoken like a true spinless twit.
2005-02-02 [Avoral]: Well, I suppose it's for the better that you rid the world of yourself. For someone as weak-minded as you, the world's going to be nothing but a billion feet trampling over you. I suppose Darwin in action is the whiny Goth subculture and all its affiliates: The strong keep on walking, and the weak kill themselves. My props to your enlightened stature. (Don't mind my sardonic laughter, either. Pay no heed to the little guy laughing at you.)
2005-02-02 [livingdeadgurl]: the little guy is right....littl
2005-02-03 [fjdka]: i can't stop the razor...
2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Was I talking to you, [livingdeadgurl]? And actually, I have prospects into BECOMING the psychiatrist. And I'm doing quite nicely thus far. ^_^ Anyway, that was all against Randa, who only responded with "I can't stop the razor." She knows it applies to her. Oh, and define "cultured" for me. I want to see your idea of it.
2005-02-03 [livingdeadgurl]: i dont care who it was to i dont apresheating you talking to her or anyone like that u little jerk.....sereo
2005-02-03 [Avoral]: Yeah, you do need to wait until tomorrow. You're just slinging third-grade insults now. I'll give you some time to gather your wits.
2005-02-04 [livingdeadgurl]: im pissed off randa roo....
2005-02-05 [Miss Demeanours]: i think both off ur arguments are complete shit!!! neither understand eachother side of the argument... for start if u cut thn fair enuff, i used to but dont carry on whining about it creating the image of attention seeking if thats not what u want, if ur goin 2 do it just get on and do it its ur life but maybe not everyone needs to hear iabout how much you love pain and stuff... and ive learned that.....where
2005-02-05 [Miss Demeanours]: who deals with stuff like that u need to have alot of patients and not loose your cool with someone because they refuse to change their mind about the way they live their life.. so can we just stop now its gettin kinda boring....
2005-02-05 [Avoral]: Wow, you missed the point entirely, [Miss Demeanours]. Leave it to the young and stupid to do just that.
2005-02-05 [Miss Demeanours]: u may call me young and stupid but maybe ur just ignorant, u expect to be able to point across to a group of people who have already seemingly made up their minds on a way of life and then get defensive and abusive just because theyve challenged your point of view, not great for ur case because u obviusly dont have a good enuff come back.. and as for all this young and stupid stuff... i may only be 17 but i have, unfortuantly had a hell of alot more life experience than most people and yes been on both sides of the spectrum. In future if all u can do to insult someone who challenges you is to call them young and stupid well whos the stupid one.... maybe you just like feeling superior because
2005-02-05 [Miss Demeanours]: ur a bit older than me, or these other 2 u have been arguing with but that doesnt mean ur any less ignorant, and who are you to preech you have no idea of anything else yet either, unfortuantly your not the be all and end all.... i no im not either but i dont claim to be.... i think maybe its you who needs to grow up... and act your age
2005-02-05 [Miss Demeanours]: plus ur obviously just a guy who likes to make fire, after all you have just gone into a wiki very obviously full of people who self harm and tried to intimidate them by forcing your unthought out opinions on them..... stupid really...
2005-02-05 [Avoral]: When did they challenge me in the first place? I came here to challenge the minds of the rest of them. It's funny that you're actually buying into all this. And you're 17? Developmental psychology would have it that you'd have seen at least a little something of the truth by now. And un-thought out? Sounds more like you're the self-righteous one here, and are looking for others of your undeveloped idealism that you can try to defend. Is it because you're at the level of those so far below you? Or do you have nothing else to say without defending the primordial BS that is their philosophy?
2005-02-05 [Miss Demeanours]: im not defending either side of this cus i can see that neither you or them have a strong enough argument wot i was trying to say ok, u tried to challenge their minds as you say, but isnt it blatently obvious they dont care what you say, they have made their minds up for the time being and they too young to realise it but they will grow out of it. i am in no way preaching any from of idealism all im saying is you're wasting your breath trying to force them out a way of thinking they have unknowling become dependant on (for the time being) by saying theyre stupid ........ and if ur saying im preaching and self riteous... who are you to challenge their minds... just let them get on with it...
2005-02-05 [Miss Demeanours]: and im not buying it into anything... i simply went onto this wiki and saw you making 2 girls angry by insulting them and them insulting you back...... if your going to get defensive then fine but i thought as you are training to be a phychiatrist or whatever it is ur studying in that field that you would be more intelligent and argue my point with a little more fact and a little less opinion..
2005-02-05 [Avoral]: Defensive? Anyway, a good part of the training process to go into any psychological discipline is to know ALL directions of thought. I know what they're saying, and I know what you're saying; don't think for a second that I don't. However, I am sending normal thoughts on abnormal tracks, opening up things that go entirely unchallenged in the minds of others and making those who might be enlightened enough to be inquisitive within (obvious few excluded) question that little unexplored pocket. Every day, their realities are challenged... But what happens when the challenger is RIGHT? Food for thought, at least to someone with the requisite capacity.
2005-02-05 [livingdeadgurl]: dammn i missed to much.....
2005-02-05 [fjdka]: wow, this is interesting. but understand that this wiki is for these kinds of people... y be here and insult us and piss us off?? seriosly... i think this IS getting rather ridiculous. im young, and thoughtless but right now, i don't really give a shit wat i do.
2005-02-06 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: can we all just live and let live? avoral maybe we are here for whatever reason but really is that any of ur business what we do? why cant humanity leave people to be who they are. trying to change it only causes strife and sorrow because just u arent going to change an opinion. saying that we are more ignorant because we are younger than you is not true. i honestly would like to see you display a little something called self control you would know what it is if u are really studing to be a phsycologist and let us live the way we live instead of coming in here and belittleing us. playing us like you are trying to do and u are doing half well is just cruel.
2005-02-06 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: we are people just as you are and we are not lower than you. if u would like to think that be my guest but when someone gives u a huge wake up call dont come running to us. cause honestly i have freinds that if u said that to them they would beat you to death and im not exagerating. so dont press your luck and instead of preeching to us online where ur not in any danger i suggest you walk up to someones face who cuts and say that because not all of us are weak perhaps some are but in fact i found that most are stronger than you people who think you already know how the world works when u havent seen half the horror i have. i get to deal with watching my uncle kill himself and with
2005-02-06 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: the people like you who are in my school. honestly u dont know half of what life is like if u think ur really strong enough to survive this all on ur lonesome
2005-02-06 [Avoral]: Actually, just about all you said right there was the same old weak-minded BS I've heard spouted time and time again on here. Actually, I HAVE gone up to people's faces with that sort of thing; I'm the same in real life as I am on Elftown. I'll admit to cruelty; it's fun, and in the end you're all just my toys. Those oh-so-murderou
2005-02-06 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: We're all someones toys. I'm just not yours. And nothing you say or do can make me that way. I dont care how weak you say I am because yes I may be weak we are all, yes i may be crazy, once again we all are in a way. And if you think so highly of yourself to think that we are your toys, youve gotta be trippin on something haha.
2005-02-06 [PostrChld4Abortn]: I'm feeling a slight tension in this room.
2005-02-06 [Avoral]: Yeah, they're a bit more tense than they should be. ^_^ Nah, Rose, you all really are my toys right now. It's nothing against equality; it's just that you're all making it far too easy to manipulate you. One push sends you a mile.
2005-02-06 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: one push doesnt move me an inch. im being perfectly civil to you which im sure must frustrate you. i really am in complete control here :) i find ur efforts amusing
2005-02-07 [Avoral]: And your civility is fun. But you're still my toy.
2005-02-07 [fjdka]: Captain Morgan is my fffffffriieeee
2005-02-07 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: why dont you just tell me how im your toy? my life is seperate than yours. no matter what you do to "play" with me i must be the happiest person i know. i have a guy who cares about me that i care about i have freinds that care about me im content and im happy now how are you changing that? cause id like to see you try. if im your toy you should be able to turn me around shouldnt you. now prove it to me
2005-02-07 [Lost_soul_of BrandonLee2]: Hello....
2005-02-07 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: hi whats up?
2005-02-07 [Lost_soul_of BrandonLee2]: not much, you?
2005-02-07 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: eh nothing much. i cant belive this asshole had the nerve to tell me IM his toy hahaha ive beat the shit out of men like him more than once. he cant change how i feel or who i am thus i am not his toy eh? i dont even cut im just tired of listening to an asshole like him belittle people. im like my freinds. i dont care if i dont know the people you are being cruel to ur just arent going to be cruel without me saying something. hehe id love to shove my log splitting axe in his balls
2005-02-07 [Avoral]: Socrates, in his trial, made toys out of an entire courtroom. Did their wives leave them? Did their friends desert them? If so, why? And, with that in mind, were the people he affected any less his toys just BECAUSE their lives were never "turned around?" And the fun part is that you're doing the same thing they did.
2005-02-07 [Miss Demeanours]: i cant be arsed anymore with this, everyone has their won views and i can accept UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE!! at the end of the day i got better things to do with my life than to sit at my computer all day in order to have a debate with someone who is completly closed minded. [Avoral] you are the only one who has become defensive about this in a rude and completly arseholish manner. thankyou [Our Lady of Sorrow] for being the only one in here trying to have a decent discussion without inforcing your values onto other people, because thats what some people do, without admiting or maybe even realising it
2005-02-07 [Avoral]: Oh, I'm quite aware people have their own views. If they didn't, it'd be less fun to destroy each individual mind. To get any sort of satisfaction, I'd have to go so far as to wipe out mass quantities of people at once. Defensive? I'm still trying to see that. If you mean I'm refuting each of these third-grade insults and threats, then I suppose I'm guilty of the crime. However, it would seem to me that you're all on the defensive as well. The only disadvantage I'm at is numbers, and it seems that that upper-hand is being highly wasted. That's the problem with a mass of like-minded people. There's just no diversity.
2005-02-07 [livingdeadgurl]: sooooooo....ho
2005-02-08 [fjdka]: just peachy!!!! well, not really, but im not gonna talk about nemore of that shit on here. obviosly it's not wanted..
2005-02-08 [Avoral]: Looks like my work here is almost done.
2005-02-08 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: please cease and desist i know my freinds have not abandoned me i stand by them as firm as they stand by me. now if you are done please remove yourself from this place
2005-02-08 [Erinnn]: O.o
2005-02-08 [Avoral]: Ask nicer, and offer me Goths as sacrifices.
2005-02-08 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: I wouldn't off anyone as a sacrifice. That is THEIR choice to make not mine. As for asking nicer perhaps if you become nicer.
2005-02-08 [livingdeadgurl]: this is a place for people if need be to go and vent ....iv already explained this to you avoral......an
2005-02-09 [fjdka]: miss roo. hehe, i like that. hehe.
2005-02-09 [Avoral]: *Shrugs* So? Some people proclaim themselves as such, and those are my favorites to smite.
2005-02-09 [Miss Demeanours]: well then youre just loking for an easy atrget besides only the weak stereotype....
2005-02-09 [Avoral]: Yes, and that's why I like to smite those who stereotype themselves.
2005-02-09 [Miss Demeanours]: well then your just as abd as the people your trying to preach to... doesn't put you in a great position..,.
2005-02-09 [livingdeadgurl]: basicaly your an asshole..
2005-02-10 [Avoral]: And you're just as the blind guy collecting change on the corner.
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: and u can see you just choose not to look
2005-02-10 [Avoral]: Look? At what? I see a lot of things a lot of people around here are failing to look at.
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: u see nothing and yet u act like u know it all
2005-02-10 [Avoral]: You're evading the subject. Tell me what I'm supposedly missing. At the moment, for all intents and purposes, you're just skirting around some huge imaginary picture, trying to make one believe that there's actually something there. Prove otherwise.
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: there is sumthing there im *skirting* around nothing...u dont see people for what they are...u see them for there imperfections.
2005-02-10 [Avoral]: Nah, I've just come to know enough people that the same old people time and time again, technically individual as each may be, is nothing special. I see people for what they are. I see potential in everyone. At the same time, however, I see the reasons behind what's said in conventional conversation, and tend to see nothing interesting. It takes something actually special to interest me, which, alas, is nothing I've seen here thus far.
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: u see nothing in no one!! u dont look at the person u look at the blaitent meaningless plastic stereotype u ignore the actual person u ignore the emense amount of individuality that each person has and then u preach your bullshit about the toppic to people like a dammn bible pusher!
2005-02-10 [Avoral]: "Immense amount of individuality that each person has?" Sounds like something I heard a while back... Oh yeah! Barney. Anyway, I do see something in some people, as long as there's something worth seeing. A long time ago, this would've intrigued me. 'Course, by the time I was out of 8th grade, I had long since seen things like this over and over. Congrats, people just like you made me highly jaded. People just like you made me.
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: people just like me hey....well thatsa new one...i wasent aware that they were cloning people now...u need to seek profeshional help to deal with your stereotypical bullshit ....stop trying to fuck with ppl and try seeing them for what they are...your not any better then any of the other assholes out there u just seem to be more persistant
2005-02-10 [Avoral]: Actually, they pretty much are cloning people. I suppose you need to figure it out for yourself; to begin with, look at yourself and everything you do with all your little friends. Find the things you think make you unique from everyone else. Then find out how many people do the exact same thing. There's a start for you. Also, ever notice how many people agree with you on everything? Another example. Think about it. Suspend your disbelief.
2005-02-10 [Priest Kel]: Bible pusher? I think that this needs a definition
2005-02-10 [Avoral]: Welcome to the razor blade army, Chub.
2005-02-10 [Priest Kel]: ^_^ Why thank you my dear Kai *bows* Now then, let the smiting begin
2005-02-10 [Avoral]: Nah, the smiting's on its tail end. I was more playing with mass elucidation, getting back into practice from the old days. Needless to say, I've dwindled them down to questioning my reasoning and delivering the same old existential BS.
2005-02-10 [Priest Kel]: Bah, you invite me to the smiting at the end of the smiting? No fair
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: meh quite honastly i see u know nothing anyway...
2005-02-10 [Priest Kel]: Me or him?
2005-02-10 [Avoral]: The more you learn, the less you know. And I've learned quite a bit.
2005-02-10 [Avoral]: But no, I really do want to hear your definition of a "bible pusher."
2005-02-10 [Priest Kel]: I know I do!!! ^_^
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: it would not matter if i explained my definition to you becouse even if i did u would attempt to tern it into sumthing else so i see no point
2005-02-10 [Priest Kel]: I'm only trying to defend myself
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: your defending nothing...u only came in here to piss about with avoral..
2005-02-10 [Priest Kel]: He told me that you said something about a Bible Pusher, so I came in to defend my position as a preacher
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: so your a preacher? so have u come to preach to me then? tell me to repent for my sins and turn to the light..
2005-02-10 [Priest Kel]: No, that's not the way it's meant to be done. I don't tell you to do anything, I merely tell you the truth about the universe. It's your choice whether to listen or not
2005-02-10 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: truth? how can u be so sure what the truth is. no i deny your "truth"
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: ur supposed truth has been denied...sorry please try again
2005-02-10 [Priest Kel]: I can not explain things to you to make you believe. Even if I gave you enough evidence to make a standard atheist believe, there is a chance you wouldn't because it requires faith. But, to me there has to be a God because of the math
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: math? haha...sorry but i have to laugh...no offence....i do respect your religon...howe
2005-02-10 [Priest Kel]: Well, that's the way you are. But to me the probability that this universe coming into existence without some sentient being guiding it is too much of a problem to even attempt to calculate
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: yes but what is the point in even trying to comprehend it when u could never know the truth
2005-02-10 [Priest Kel]: Because, God is Holy, and a holy person does not lie. They have no reason to. Lieing is a sign of weakness because it shows that you have to lie in order to achieve your goal
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: how do u know there is a *holy person* though...i mean what proff do you honastly have?? other then a book...a book that wasent even written by the holy person that it claimes to represent
2005-02-10 [Priest Kel]: It was written through divine inspiration. Spoken from God to those who wrote it. And as I said, I can not give you 100% concrete proof because it takes faith. All I can tell you is why I believe
2005-02-10 [livingdeadgurl]: then all i can offer is my point of view...still i have full respects for all religons however i will take non onto my own..
2005-02-11 [Lost_soul_of BrandonLee2]: So?
2005-02-11 [livingdeadgurl]: just staiting a fact that tis all..
2005-02-11 [fjdka]: this is all fucked up shit to me. too complicated and not worth arguing or discussing this subject. but go ahead and i'll just not visit for a while.
2005-02-11 [livingdeadgurl]: aww....psht u assholes make miss roo leave.....now who the hell is supposed to join me in the razor army? jerks!
2005-02-11 [Avoral]: Me! ^_^
2005-02-11 [livingdeadgurl]: no...
2005-02-12 [fjdka]: i am cornhollio!!!!
2005-02-13 [livingdeadgurl]: woot! lol..
2005-02-15 [fjdka]: valentines day sux ass. y can't we celebrate love everyday??? i got depressed becuz i am alone, and so i took my sweet razor and made pain. it was good.
2005-02-15 [livingdeadgurl]: mmm...good ol razor...the won dependable object..
2005-02-15 [fjdka]: hehehe. of course!! and the one thing even better, the pain that comes with it. i carved zach's name into my arm... i want him so incredibly bad... y am i so utterly pathetic???
2005-02-15 [livingdeadgurl]: cuz ur in love...ppl who are in love are always pathetic...tis just a fact..
2005-02-17 [fjdka]: my razor waz taken away from me today. i cut last night reallly bad, mom still wants to take me in for stitches but i say no. dad says if i cut again he'll be forced to do "daily body checks". i fucked up. again. *goddammit*
2005-02-17 [livingdeadgurl]: bleh....so shitty miss roo....
2005-02-20 [Lost_soul_of BrandonLee2]: Ahh that fuckin sucks......
2005-02-20 [livingdeadgurl]: yesm..
2005-02-20 [Avoral]: Bah. Quit beating around the bush and go through with suicide already.
2005-02-20 [livingdeadgurl]: i would but id rather stick around in order to torture u for a little while longer..
2005-02-20 [Priest Kel]: God doesn't need a dam, He can walk on water
2005-02-20 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: avoral we already discussed this now please leave these people alone for godsake and id love to actually SEE someone walk on water but im not seeing it cause its NOT BLOODY POSSIBLE U MORON
2005-02-20 [livingdeadgurl]: o if only this were a real room...with all of us actully standing in it...there would be a few dead bodys laying around by now..
2005-02-20 [Priest Kel]: Actually, scientifically it is possible. If the person is less dense than the water then it would be quite possible to walk on water
2005-02-20 [Priest Kel]: And I sure hope you aren't implying that you actually could kill Avoral or myself
2005-02-20 [livingdeadgurl]: lifes a bitch...then ya die...people are bitches...and they die faster.....im implying nuthing...just making a staitment..
2005-02-20 [Priest Kel]: And I was just assuring you that no matter how many razor blades you may have, you won't kill either Avoral or myself
2005-02-20 [livingdeadgurl]: u were asuring me of nothing...pfft i would never kill sumone with razor blades....that would be no fun..
2005-02-20 [Priest Kel]: Fine, I was stating that you couldn't kill me
2005-02-20 [livingdeadgurl]: fine..i was just staiting what i stated..
2005-02-21 [Avoral]: Funny. They back down on their implications. I guess that goes to show you how weak the spines of whiny existentialist teens are. Just no conviction. Aimless, faithless, just plain worthless.
2005-02-21 [livingdeadgurl]: aww just like u avoral..
2005-02-21 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: backing down? how so. Jesus, Avoral why dont u just leave us the hell alone this is getting rediculous honestly im tired of listening to you bitch how others are just like you
2005-02-21 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: and holy warrior.... THERE IS NO PERSON less dense than water and it can not be because of the requirement for oh i dunno BONES maybe..... so NO it is NOT scietificaly possible
2005-02-21 [fjdka]: Get the fuck out of here if all ur gonna do is fucking insult us and push us twards death becuz believe me it's pretty fucking possible with all this shit going on. this is a place to TALK about shit, not get insulted and put down for it. so either stay and shut the fuck up or get the fuck out.
2005-02-21 [Avoral]: Will you kill yourself if I do?
2005-02-21 [Miss Demeanours]: no we will celebrate the peace and quiet
2005-02-21 [fjdka]: just shut the fuck up. would you really enjoy yourself knowing you drove someone to commiting suicide. im not says im going to end my life now, i must live it out and endure this pain and cherish my loved ones while i can. now shut the fuck up and leave.
2005-02-21 [Priest Kel]: Actually, it still could be possible. In the same way that some people can control their heartbeat. If someone had enough control over their body and their own molecules they could become less dense then water. ^_^ Just because you have no imagination doesn't mean that it can't happen.
2005-02-22 [Avoral]: Actually, if they did do it, I'd basically just smile knowing I was the voice of natural selection. If someone gets to killing themselves over the words of others (i.e. everyone making fun of them at school, people like me existing, etc.), they need to die in the first place. Everyone who's ever driven someone over the edge in such a manner is only doing the world a favor. So, if I DID drive one of you kids to do it, I'd pat myself on the back.
2005-02-22 [Avoral]: Yeah, it's funny how kids these days are so quick to say anything is possible, yet deny the possibility of the Christian faith being even remotely right. "No, Jesus didn't exist! But vampires and ghosts and demons and faeries and werewolves do!" Yeah. Open-mindednes
2005-02-22 [livingdeadgurl]: ha kids ...give me a break your still a child yourself o im sorry im sure your mommy still calls you a big boy....i dont honastly see how anyone like you could drive sumone to kill themselfs your tacktics are inane and rather adolecent..you would think that sumone such as ourself could come up with a better argument then o id smile if sumone killed themselfs becouse of me...becouse quite honastly i dont think u would...think about it what if one of your best friends (Asuming u have friends of course) killed themselfs...an
2005-02-22 [Avoral]: Well, that would be among the many reasons I don't keep "best friends." That's just one of those practices you'd try to pull off in order to feel like you have a purpose for being around. You'd be surprised what volatile thoughts can come from your "best friend" toward you. If someone killed himself because of my attitude, once again I reiterate, they'd be gone, and I'd half-smile about it. I don't expect such whiny responses from the company I keep. Oh, and 19 is past the point of being a legal adult. You're what, 14? Still thinking the big bad "preps" are out to ostracize you? It's also cute to hear "I'm not much younger than you!" from someone your age.
2005-02-22 [livingdeadgurl]: yeah 14..sure whatever...you
2005-02-22 [Avoral]: Well, the guesswork was just because I didn't care. And no, a lot of people try to be my "best friend," but are met with some superficial cheeriness as I watch for the dagger behind their back. There are many people out there who actually think they're my "best friend." Oh, and remember, there are actually some people I like. And those people don't get the "holier than thou" treatment. On the other hand, there are small children out there, usually around age 14 on through 17, who receive the "elucidation treatment." It's where I take the security blanket off their backs and tell them the way things really are.
2005-02-22 [livingdeadgurl]: yeah well ur lucky you didnt grow up in my nahbour hood cuz that so called *security blanket* is ripped off there backs by the age of 5 genraly......u seem like youv been hurt avoral...u see the daggers....tha
2005-02-22 [Avoral]: Yeah, they call that the school of hard knocks. There's more than one neighborhood out there like that. I graduated there too. Regardless of the walk of life, however, there's always that phase in life in which one takes solace in the fact that they're right and society is wrong. Then, invariably, they find out that everything they're believing is a lie. Then, after that, they find out that the "truth" they believed to be elucidation from the prior lies are, in turn, lies. And from there, an enlightened mind will say "screw it" and think for themselves, casting off the past belief that what they were doing before was free thinking. And that, child, is the doorway I seek to open.
2005-02-22 [Avoral]: Rainbows are tricks of refracted light, and flowers are logical organisms dotting the world with bits of color--Also light tricks, all perceived and translated by the eye. Life is rainbows and flowers if you can see the rainbows and flowers.
2005-02-22 [livingdeadgurl]: see....u know how it is ur not imune to the darker side of life so why u tryin ta mess with all of these people in here who all they realy want is just a place to go and vent there frustrations
2005-02-22 [Avoral]: Because it's fun.
2005-02-22 [livingdeadgurl]: what part of it is fun?
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